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• Phil Murray commented  ·  May 25, 2012 5:01 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  After using the new UI for a few days I have to day I love the dark theme. The performance is greatly improved, hopefully the toolbox performance is too.

  BUT

  The glyphs are hideous, it took me 20 minutes to find the add/remove comment icon!!! Who dreamed that one up?
  Please remove the capitalization from all menu's, I don't like to be shouted at.

  The whole application need a little more pop and the examples shown in the RC are a little better.

• Sergey commented  ·  May 24, 2012 12:56 p.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  The new UI is not bad, but it is imposed without the possibility of choice, and I want to choose themes and icons.

• NotRelevant commented  ·  May 24, 2012 12:25 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  I liked the all grey icons better as they didn't stick as much.

• cml commented  ·  May 23, 2012 2:22 p.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  My own studies:
  The icons in VS are indistinguishable NOT due to the lack of color, just because they are too small (low resolution = "blurry").
  Google has monochrome 21x21px icons which are perfectly readable, Microsoft only 16x16px ... and this whole bunch of comments about it

• Mike S commented  ·  May 22, 2012 6:59 p.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  I hope they are bringing back the dynamic help window too

• Amir commented  ·  May 22, 2012 11:01 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  I spent a considerable amount of money for a COLOR display (card, monitors etc.), I'd like to benefit from it while coding not just while watching cats play the piano.

• Dean J. commented  ·  May 22, 2012 7:50 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  2 observations:
  (1) Most all of the negative feedback could be avoided if MS would say this: "we see the new look is a big point of contention, so we'll give the 2010 theme as an option."

  (2) Notice the silence of the MS bloggers (Hanselman, etc.) ....that should tell you something. One Hanselman blog post regarding the beta look, he said "I'm confident it will turn out alright." But now just silence. I can't help but wondering if guys on the VS team and even some fairly high up bloggers are shocked that the bland look is being forced.

• Andre Coetzee commented  ·  May 22, 2012 7:40 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  I have to add another comment about the all caps case introduced by the Metro style of applications - now also prevalent in the VS 11 IDE. It is my personal experience that "all caps" are more difficult to read than mixed or proper case. And I quote from the wikipedia web site. “…Studies have been conducted on the readability and legibility of all caps text. Some 20th century scientific testing indicates that all caps text is less legible and less readable than lower case text. Colin Wheildon stated that there is an "apparent consensus" that lower case text is more legible…” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_caps)

• Andre Coetzee commented  ·  May 22, 2012 7:31 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  I agree 100 percent with Michiel. Color and shape association is key for my productivity. I have turned away from many apps that does not tick this box.

• Anonymous commented  ·  May 22, 2012 4:40 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  498 Comments and 7917 votes! Let's see if Microsoft is listening to us developers?!

  Really really ugly UI! Hope it don't go into final production like this :-(
  What are you doing??? I can almost see some tendencies in Windows Phone too, especially the settings dialogs...
  We understand, you want a clean fast smooth UI! But sorry you fail big time!
  I like the idea of a clean and plain UI, but little more shades/color bigger new icons maybe.
  And how on earth will this match the Windows 8 Metro UI???
  Come on it's year 2012 not 1986!!! Let's see som arty and inspiring graphics, so we can continue using your stuff!

  EMBARRASSING!!!

• Anonymous commented  ·  May 21, 2012 11:24 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  Completely agree for colorization of VS. Best colors I saw is VS2005. WHY, ****, answer me WHY AND WHO was so brave to put his stupidly stupid head to break good design?!!?

• Anonymous commented  ·  May 21, 2012 4:24 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  "Remember Internet Explorer was once the top browser and where is it now. In the span of few years it is playing catchup while many people avoid it out of principle and the bad blood it generated. The same can happen with Visual Studio."

  With all the recent gaffes (C++ rennaisance, anyone? which turned out to be not about C++11, but rather about another horrible language extension... jeez), it's not "can happen", it will happen, absolutely.

• PokeHer commented  ·  May 20, 2012 7:49 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  Agree with poster. Preview looks horrible.

• Sergey commented  ·  May 18, 2012 12:52 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  I want to pay the full theming VS.

• Sergey commented  ·  May 18, 2012 12:50 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  I agree with mrdev.

• Anonymous commented  ·  May 17, 2012 9:05 p.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  Please add the color icons back or at least make it a choice. Making Monochrome icons in the days of HD monitors is just a step in the wrong direction
  The Color Toolbar is familiar and red, green stop, run are good visual cues

• Anonymous commented  ·  May 17, 2012 8:28 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  The RC pictures show how much they've "listened" to us. It's sad.

• Phil Murray commented  ·  May 17, 2012 1:39 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  I think it's also futile to expect Microsoft to provide a VS2010 theme.

  In their desperate rush to catch up with Apple and Google they are listening to supposed "user design experts" and will have very little interest that the development community does not like the UI.

  After all anything else just would not be "Metro"

  Apple and Google have got where they are by innovating and by providing easy to use/simple interfaces. Microsoft, please realise that this is a development environment as thus requires some complexity. In this suite were are interested in producing Metro application, not developing in one.

• mrdev commented  ·  May 16, 2012 5:49 p.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  No Azarien, it is not futile. We are paying for this product (directly or indirectly) so we should DEMAND that mistakes be fixed. If it is not fixed at RTM, then it will have to be fixed in a service pack.

  The majority of users did not download the beta. I've been at 2 job sites in the past 6 months, and most people in the offices did not look at it. Their basis for comparison will be VS 2010 vs VS11 RTM. Therefore the number of unhappy people at release will HUGELY exceed the number of people unhappy with beta or RC. The inability of MS management to grasp this simple concept is troubling. It's as if that manager believes that everyone downloaded the beta and now will settle for the few tweaks. Well, they are in for a surprise come RTM.

  My solution to this problem would be:
  1. Ensure theme editor works so that people can create a 2010 or 2008 color theme. Make sure edges/border can be shown (ie. black) if desired to create 2008 look.
  2. Take out hardcoded icons and put them into pluggable resource DLLs. Then ship a 2010 icons DLL.
  3. Allow icons to be added back in to places where they were taken out (ie. tabs like solution explorer). BTW this is a disaster in the RC. You are going to get a lot of anger once people put 6 tabs next to each other and the text is chopped off.

  Work on this now so that you can hastily release an RTM update a few months after RTM after you have already had an egg on your face and a serious dent in your reputation.

  Remember Internet Explorer was once the top browser and where is it now. In the span of few years it is playing catchup while many people avoid it out of principle and the bad blood it generated. The same can happen with Visual Studio.

• Azarien commented  ·  May 16, 2012 10:34 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  I think asking for VS2010 theme is now futile. It seems that they *HAVE* to mess around with the UI for the sole sake of doing it. Let's focus on what should be done with the already announced Beta and RC theme.