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• koo9 commented  ·  March 5, 2012 4:47 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  I don't think this is any better than notepad. So why don't u give us notepad with Bing integrated and let Bing do the search and make all the design decisions for us. Maybe finding bugs too...

• Sergey commented  ·  March 5, 2012 2:06 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  Add a various themes in VS with the possibility of deep configuration: icons, icons file associations, icons contrast tool bar, gradient tool bar.

  Let everyone insists is convenient for a theme.

• Thomas Kogoj commented  ·  March 5, 2012 12:57 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  I LIKE IT
  I like the way you at microsoft do your work in the last couple of years.

  I skipped so many (for the most) useless technologies. The whole WPF, Silverlight story .. I simply skipped it. AND i had so much free time. Enjoying my life. And now it looks like that i will skip the entire Visual Studio 11 line. Great. Not to waste time for tools that will slow down my developer process. GREAT.

  Ok.. Maybe i will miss some 'good' features - but there is enough great stuff in .NET 4.0 /VS 2010 like MEF or other. And my software runs on XP as well.....

  Did i say that i am a .NET usergroup leader and was always learning the hottest new technologys (and enjoyed) from you ? Now it's so boring. Really ....
  Please wake up .... thats not the way to go

• Knowing me, knowing you, a-ha commented  ·  March 5, 2012 12:37 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  Another observation:
  The supposed purpose of stripping colors is to allow developer to concentrate on his code. But this is very simplistic/shallow/poorly thought through approach. When I code, then yes, I want to concentrate on my code (toolbars can be colorless), but when I want to use menu/toolbar/intellisense I DO WANT TO CONCENTRATE ON THEM so the colors should be back on those widgets.
  So my suggestion would be: Make toolbars, icons, intellisense etc "mono" when I'm coding, but "bring them to life" when I need to use them. Wouldn't that make sense?

• John Leidegren commented  ·  March 4, 2012 11:49 p.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  The contrast is quite absurd. I'm all for change but replacing every visual cue with a new icon, that's going too far. I'd get it if at least some of the new intellisense icons where stenciled of the original and similar to the old ones in some way, but even this has changed a lot. The old icon set was really good. Color isn't a bad thing, it adds dimensions/depth to an otherwise very clean slate. So I like many of the UI elements reductions but you should really think hard on keeping the colorful intellisense icon set. Possibly dropping the 3d effect (bevel/embross) of the icons. Stencil them out.

  I spend more than 8 hours a day in Visual Studio and while I like the fierce reduction of elements and think the amount of color that is lacking is a huge mistake.

• Mamsik commented  ·  March 4, 2012 11:48 p.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  Please, give us the colors back!

• Anonymous commented  ·  March 4, 2012 8:05 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  Intellisense is much more difficult to use without any colour on icons and text.

• pvdg42 commented  ·  March 4, 2012 6:53 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  Thenonhacker's "after" screenshot is a huge step in the right direction. I really hope that somebody on the VS dev team is watching this suggestion and comments carefully.

• thenonhacker commented  ·  March 4, 2012 6:34 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  Thanks Knowing!

• Knowing me, knowing you, a-ha commented  ·  March 4, 2012 3:07 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  @thenonhacker I believe that the direction you went is the right direction. I also agree that code- coloring is good idea (road signs etc). I believe that there is still work to be done, but I'd absolutely love to have this theme (yours) over the current one (pugly).
  I think some of the icons should be better thought through. I was/am always puzzled by filter icon. Why is it a funnel? Funnel doesn't filter anything, it directs, but not filters, yet everywhere I look funnel is the icon for filter. Same for wrench and properties, this is just bad. Wrench for settings is good on the other way.
  Over all I really, really like your work.

• thenonhacker commented  ·  March 4, 2012 12:28 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  @mrdev: I used color-coding instead of emulating reality. Think of Road Signs that the Metro Design Language is inspired with.

  - Orange for System / Config

  - Purple for Visual Studio Projects / File Commands

  - Green for Go / Navigation

  - Yellow for Locations / Folders

  - The rest of the colors are carried over from legacy icons, like Blue for Undo / Redo. Green for C# Filetype.

• mrdev commented  ·  March 3, 2012 11:09 p.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  thenonhacker, you gave a new color to each icon, but each icon is still SINGLE color. Many things look too light - disabled. You made the Solution "manilla envelope" icon purple - you have purple manilla envelopes at home? You made the Properties "wrench" icon orange - you have orange wrenches in your toolbox? Why is the status bar bright purple but the docked window tab text is so muted?

  Why should we compromise on anything when we can ask to have the previous theme back as one of the options?

• thenonhacker commented  ·  March 3, 2012 10:19 p.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  I've been getting a lot of positive feedback at http://visualstudio.uservoice.com/forums/121579-visual-studio/suggestions/2623659-go-all-in-with-a-zune-style-metro-ui-see-my-makeo

  The Goal of REVAMP V5 is to make the IDE more alive and less depressing. In REVAMP V5, we address some of the feedback on V4, and at the same time, add more color where they make sense.

  BEFORE REVAMP: http://i.imgur.com/HXSDk.png

  VIEW SCREENSHOT REVAMP V5: http://i.imgur.com/EWH1R.png

  Here are my Version 5 VS 11 Changes:

  1. Panel Titles, Selected Tabs, Selected Items, and the Status Bar now have a background color.

  2. Metro-Version of Toolbar Handles.

  3. Improved the appearance of Tab Items at the bottom, and docked panel text at the sides.

  4. Added a Zune-inspired watermark at the top of the window.

  BEFORE REVAMP: http://i.imgur.com/HXSDk.png

  VIEW SCREENSHOT REVAMP V5: http://i.imgur.com/EWH1R.png

• Roman commented  ·  March 3, 2012 4:59 p.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  And the last question: "Why ,if it is so great, don't you apply such a nice look to Microsoft's new OS?" Let's do this. Every window in such style, every dialog in such style, every icon is such style. This will help everyone to not distract from their work - searching alternatives.

• Roman commented  ·  March 3, 2012 4:49 p.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  Well.. metro apps are no so important thing that could make me sacrifice all my previous experience for the sake of new "vista" release of VS. New UI makes it completely unusable for me...

• Roman commented  ·  March 3, 2012 4:24 p.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  Just wondering why "Debug Lambda expressions" and performance improvement get more voices.
  I've spent about 30 minutes in this new environment, and I was shocked - it's incredible unusable. You even can't say where you're on: References, .cs files or folders.. your should focus on imperceptible text and try to read it before you can press any button.

  Visual studio is somewhat different from Photoshop, its main authority is developers, not designers. So I even can't imagine HOW these new improvements can help us, and HOW this idea was approved on all levels of Microsoft, and IN WHAT WAY we should concentrate on source code. Is this some new kind of concentration, or what? Blue VS 2010 colors in any way couldn't affect quality of C# code, applied patterns and QC effectiveness!

• PeterP commented  ·  March 3, 2012 2:03 p.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  worst UI ever seen, well on the one side Metro UI and on the other side this ugly ...

• vs2010junkie commented  ·  March 3, 2012 11:34 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  When I look at Visual Studio 11, I feel like I have been forced to go back to a black and white TV in a time when everyone else has vivid color Plasma and LED TVs.

• gmit commented  ·  March 3, 2012 9:44 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  Nowadays, Microsoft is doing everything wrong :(

• Mystere Man commented  ·  March 3, 2012 8:50 a.m.  ·  Flag as inappropriateFlag as inappropriate  ·  Delete

  MY EYES!!! THEY BURN!!! TURN IT OFF!!! Seriously, this is godawful. If you're concerned about color palettes in Metro, then make the Metro designers bland. But leave the rest of the UI.

  I would rather have the Ribbon than this. I simply can't tell the difference between the icons, and the contrast is so small that half the time i can't even read the text. Forcing all caps to make up for your lack of line art is just a hack and terrible.