VS11. Bring back the old "Pending Changes" window
The new one is very confusing!!!
I think the old one was almost perfect so why did you change it??? I mean, you can add new options but why did you change the philosophy?
The most important problems I see with the new one:
- No way to have that window independent so it can be accessed easily and fast
- Difficult to see at first sight the files changed! (of course, the new “no color” interface is part of the problem...)
- Difficult to exclude changes! (in the old one it was so easy by clicking the checkbox...)
We are happy to let you know that in today’s release of Visual Studio 2013 Preview we have made numerous improvements to the Pending Changes experience. The most significant additions are the ability to undock the Pending Changes page from Team Explorer, an option for viewing changes in a flat list, text filtering, and the removal of the “All Changes” page that was used when your number of files exceeded 250 items.
You can get the VS2013 Preview build here:http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=306566
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In my company we updated to VS2012 from VS2008, and we have found the new Pending Changes management absolutely horrible to use and creates a lot of troubles.
Please bring back the old Pending Changes" window also for VS2012 ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
the new website sucks I want the old one back it was my favorite website to go on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bring it back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why did you get ride of it in the first place a lot of people liked it
Not having my work items listed there so that I can check them (without flipping over to a different query window or then keying the item # in) is a big suck.
In the next version of Visual Studio, please bring back a method for listing my assigned work items (whether I select a default query or something) so that I can simply checkbox the one I want to include these checkins on. Having to type it, copy-n-paste it, or drag and drop all suck as alternatives.
If your guys were struggling with that, here is an example of how to do it:
Chuan Li commented
Pending Changes in VS2013 is a joke.
It makes the simple task extremely troublesome due to the crowded metro layout, eye-hurting color scheme, confusing UI interaction:
- Spot the files to check in
- Include them, exclude other
- Compare with latest
- Enter comment
- Check them in.
Pending Changes in VS2010 is much more usable UI design.
Stanley Goldman commented
LOL, I gave up man, just go use Git and be happy.
That's the only way to teach them that their decisions have been horrible.
Either way, you get three votes from me on general principle.
Michael Jensen commented
In outrage to the way this request has been addressed (as well as many others), I've posted the following user voice request: Let the the USERS decide when a suggestion is "completed"!
Suggestions for improving the pending changes window in future versions.
1. Allow the first three sections (Policy Warnings, Comment, and Related Work Items) and the last section (Notes) to be pulled out of the main Pending Changes screen or put in a separate column so this exists beside the Included changes & Excluded changes windows so the Included changes & Excluded changes can be scrolled separately from the other pending changes info.
Allow freezing the first three sections (Policy Warnings, Comment, and Related Work Items) (similar to freezing rows in Excel) so that scrolling through the changes does not hide those sections.
(I like the first option better)
2. Allow adjusting the Warnings and Work Items sections so they can be shrunk down to one or two rows of info and scrolled individually so as not to take up the entire window when many Warnings or Work Items are listed.
3. Create an easier way to assign Work Items to the pending changes. A button in the Work Items list that adds the selected work item(s) to the pending changes if not already there would be great! It was much easier in 2010, but that version was not without its problems. E.g. If you changed the Work Items query, the previously assigned work items were no longer assigned.
I also am not a fan on the pending changes window, but I have decided to try to pass on helpful comments
So... after seeing that wonderful "Undock" button... is there any chance of really actually fixing this in Visual Studio 2014? 2015? Sure hope nobody got promoted for this "great new interface idea". Was the vision that someone was gonna be using Visual Studio from a tablet? For the real world record, most of my team is sticking with 2010 as their preferred IDE. If Microsoft truly understood how bad 2012/2013 has been on the street, they would have gathered in audience around the project manager and handed them a short sword. The Pending Changes window needs to be rolled back. It's not that confusing.
I know there are a million comments on how horrible the pending changes is, but I would like to add one more. 2012 has great improvements for IntelliSense in C, but the interface is so blaahhh. No colors anywhere, looks like one big pile of boring ****. Pending changes makes me day so unhappy anytime I need to check something in. There are thousands and thousands of files in our solution, this tree view would be good only for small projects.
"Microsoft does not use Visual Studio to develop so they do not know how bad their changes are." -@BilliJack
This is true!
Even the simple Ctrl+F with Quick Replace option is gone (now you have to use Ctrl+H instead). I know you guys (in MS) are brilliant, but pls. don't make thing complicated!
Daniel Tannenbaum commented
I mean there are some simple things that you just wonder, where did they go?
Like for example: I have a policy that says use the "Current backlog" query when checking in. This is nice because I can enforce that only items that are active can be checked-in against.
For some strange reason, you can no longer use queries defined in "Team Queries" now you can only use queries in "My Queries" which means that I can no longer enforce this policy. And in general I cannot use shared queries. WHY IN THE WORLD? What does MS have to say about that?
Also: drag work item? are you for real? well at least let me drag it from Team Explorer (because I have to admit the new search capability there is very nice) NO! You have to open it as a query and than drag it...What does MS say about that?
Come on Visual Studio Team. The treeview is ridiculous. It is confusing and non productive.
I still use Visual Studio 2010 for my source control related tasks.
And now you are saying that I have to buy the new version. Is that a joke?
Have you guys worked on big solutions with a lot of projects and deep folders? I only modify a handful of files, and I want to see them in a quick glance list view. Whenever I see a tree, I get frustrated, because I don't know where can I find my file in that tree.
William Bosacker commented
@EMI: You might want to look into Shelvesets. You can "shelve" all of your current changes that you don't want to check in, do a "Get Latest Version", make the bug fix changes, check in the bug fixes, then restore your shelveset, do a "Get Latest Version" to merge in any changes, and pickup where you left off.
I forgot to mention: think of my below cycle is repeated over and over again. Am I missing something out of VS2013?
The working cycle with lists in Pending Changes window is a weird one at least. I have 100+ files checked out and modified. Out of them I want only 3 to check in in a batch because they refer to the same bug but the other 100+ refer to another developments I work in parallel. So with the new cycle I have to scroll all the list of 100+ files and select just those 3 of interest to transfer them in the Include list wile keeping the other in Exclude list. Well, I forgot to mention that in my 100+ modified files there are 5 or more that I never ever want to check-in but I want to keep them always in Excluded files (they are particular settings for build which fit only for my own machine; they cannot be checked in without introducing a big fuss for the other developers). Back to MS life cycle of checking files: After making my those 3 into Include I have to check-in and after that deal with those 5 (scrolling, selecting, playing with Include/Exclude, drink coffee and begin smoking ....)
Microsoft does not use Visual Studio to develop so they do not know how bad their changes are.
Sowen Cheung commented
second that, the new Pending Changes sucks on sooooooooooooooooooooooo many levels. I always want to love Microsoft, but why the fxxk you always ***** us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with you SRG, it's money, but in this case they don't need to develop nothing as the checkin window exists and works perfectly (see http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12204845/vs2012-return-to-a-normal-tfs-checkin-window/14234794#14234794). The cost of making it available should not be excessive, for sure lower than the changes they made in VS2013.
Cedric, I can answer your 1st question because it touched a very simple truth in software world. No software will ever let you choose between old and new version by configuration. This is because 2 versions will have to be supported simultaneously in this case. Which is twice costs.
Why don't you let choose developers to use the new pending changes tab or the old pending changes window by configuration ?
The visual studio 2013 changes are still unusable and are a waste of time compare to the VS2010 window...
And why do you mark the post as completed if no one is happy with a solution that doesn't change anything ?