Bring back the "VISUAL" in visual studio
Visual studio used to have a kick *** interface. However, everything about the 2012 interface looks.. amateurish.
-The icon looks like something a 3 year old did.
-The lack of depth makes the whole thing jump into my face.
-The upper cased menus are screaming at me (try posting on a forum in all caps... see what the response is).
In a nutshell, whoever designed the interface needs to go back to the grade school I'm sure they dropped out of and finish their education. Maybe get a job at a fast food place running a cash register... Because they have zero talent for making a good looking UI.
We have incredibly high resolution monitors that can render beautiful images. To go all grey (or black) is such a step backwards that I can not believe this really passed user testing.
You'll notice that iPhones went from this type of boring UI and changed to using high res displays with lots of good color. You should have also noticed that this was exactly what people wanted.. and they sold like hotcakes.
In the old days people scrambled to get color monitors just to get away from the ho-hum grayness of working with a machine all day. To send us backwards is irritating at best and abusive at worst.
Please, make Visual Studio look good again.
I don't care about metro, or whatever your calling it these days. I figure it'll take 3 years for you to figure out what a mistake that is and fix it. In the meantime, let me keep the Win7 look.
Note, I wouldn't post anything if I didn't care. I do. I want to use the best. This, well, isn't. It's not even a "good effort". Instead, it looks like something that was slapped together at the last minute.
please change the IDE Color themes and icons.
It`s realy like COMMODORE 64 'GEOS' os.
Whenever I remember the new 'UI' Iget upset and I`m thinking that how can I endure it?
All is said with "Please make Visual Studio look good again"
Mauricio Aviles commented
You do not need to be offensive/agressive to get your point across.
Chris Howell commented
Thank you Amir, Visual Studio 12's menus are no longer screaming at me. :)
We are in the process of upgrading??? to Visual Studio 2012 for 2008 on my work Windows 7 system. The same comments apply to the new IDE. Team was implemented for evaluation. Now we can't rid of it even after removing Team and Visual Studio and reinstalling Visual Studio.
The Windows 8 on my home desktop shares all of my feelings as stated by Chris 2012 comments. The W8 system also keeps running the same 40 updates over and over when I restart to run the update restart function.
I'm recommending to all my contacts using our processes to stay away from Windows 8.
I agree, it sucks and looks last minute. The UI is always processing .... "Please wait we doing something" and the File Preview it stupid... and laggy....
Roman Novitsky commented
Love the new UI! Why do you people need all those borders, colors and ugly round edges? The new UI is perfectly balanced. It helps you concentrate on what you do right now by hiding all the stuff you need occasionally (toolbars, menu items and etc.). Great job VS team!
I haven't used Windows 8 or Visual Studio 2012 for the simple fact that I cannot stand the Metro interface, even in screenshots. And I also cannot stand the arrogance of Microsoft stating "over 60 million copies sold." Yeah, how many of those millions are OEM and are forced onto the consumer? Every time I walk through Best Buy and I see the Metro interfaces, I turn around and walk away because there's no way in **** I'm buying anything running Windows 8.
I kinda like the new UI...
Luc van Vugt commented
Thanx, Amir. Looks much better with SuppressUppercaseConversion and like these themes also better.
Install Visual 2012 Theme editor from the Visual Studio gallery. They’ve got a “blue” theme that makes it look like 2010,
Thanks to a coworker you can get rid of the screaming toolbars by adding the following
Luc van Vugt commented
Fully agree with initial post and want to add that the size of various controls is not suited to be used on touch screen which is quite confusing.
Next to that having to suffer from a degrading sight (yep, I am passed 50)"the "lack of depth" is really an issue to me.
I've been using Visual Studio since version 2. I'm stuck doing work in VS 2010 right now. I think Visual Studio has gone downhill since after Version 6. Now that was a rapid development environment. Interactive response. Great debugger.
I can totally see that the look might be forced on the VS team.
However, what I find interesting is that even though the colors have changed, the menus are now ALL CAPS, and any type of beveled border is now gone there are still a tremendous number of differences between the various MS offerings.
For example the Ribbon: Love it or hate it, it's a definite difference between the number 1 MS app suite and visual studios menus.
My point is that if people on the visual part of the VS team want to claim that the monochromatic experience was forced on them (and therefore us) then perhaps that argument would be better supported if in fact MS had a unified design guideline. Given that not only is there not a unified design guideline, but rather the outright statements that each product group has their own design guidelines then the claim that this look came from outside the VS group is a bit weak.
I fully agree with the request, the default look is amateurish to say the least. Basically the same thing applies to Office 2013; when looking at the new Word interface the whole thing basically gives me an headache. Instead of trying to make the desktop applications look more like "cloud applications" Microsoft should work the other way around in my opinion.
As for VS2012; now that it has support for more theme's besides light & dark it became more bearable for me though I can't help sigh at the - in my opinion - totally broken down design whenever a dialog appears with black letters on a dark blue titlebar, thus making it impossible to read.
I have seen a lot of people say that this design is terrible and others who say they like it or they do not mind the look of it. I'm sure that someone at MS thought that this was a good idea but it really is very difficult to look at and it honestly gives me a head ache after looking at it for only a few minutes.
I agree with those of you who have commented on the people who have insulted the designer of VS2012. I don't like it either but someone probably spent a good amount of time designing it. Just because it was released like this, does not mean that it always looked like this.
In my opinion, all versions of Visual Studio from 2005 through 2010 were easy to look at and use. I have not been able to explore all of the new functionality in VS2012 yet. However, the UI is so difficult to look at that until i find a theme that is very similar to the earlier versions of Visual Studio, i will not be exploring the rest of the features.
Mike Rouse commented
Meh. I'm happy with it. Hasn't affected productivity.
They shouldn't have changed it in the first place, they should just have used real themes and done this through some sort of theme but keep the original look.. It's the biggest problem I have with MS is that most of their filosophies are only good for one or two years before they throw it all overboard and go into another direction. Just look at Metro, it's great for touch devices, but it sucks for regular desktop, they talk about 'content over chrome' but with the 'chrome' examples I see far more data then with the spacewasting 'metro' style..
Metro is like going back to the (text) DOS erra which would also be good for touch now..
@Gavin Williams: and that's where the whole f-ing problem lies, we all have different tastes, and a lot of people hate the symplistic metro style and want more color like they had for many years..
Nothing has really changed about the editor itself, only some moronic designer has pushed his/her taste down the throath of a lot of people when it wasn't even necessary. Just like the decission of MS to remove aero from Windows 8, because they think you shouldn't have 'chrome', well f-ing MS designers, if I didn't want all the chrome I could have just turned off aero and setup a theme to make it look like desktop windows 8 myself, but like me 90% of the people didn't because we liked it.. Metro can be a way forward for some people, but it can also be a way backward for others.. We have bigger screens, higher resolutions, and what do those moronic designers do? big fonts for titles big margins for positions, big blocks as background, wasting a lot of good space which could be occupied with valuable information... Just take a look at the new 'outlook.com' inbox, it is showing less information (lines) as before, information I deemed important..
Gavin Williams commented
What a rubbish request.. talking about UI as jumping and screaming, wanting the MS designers to go back to school. This isn't a request at all, it's a rave.
I've posted elsewhere on another similar request that I like the new UI, so stop talking as though you know all about UI design and what people want and what's best. You're not even presenting the truth ! You say that the UI has gone all grey (or black). That's just rubbish, there is enough contrast and color in Visual Studio as is suitable for a day to day work environment. My keyboard has 4 colors - black, grey, white and iridescent orange (lit symbols), it's a very functional interface.
You can't compare the iPhone UI to VS, iPhone UI is a consumer targeted application launcher and manager. It has no similarity in function or usage to Visual Studio.
"In the old days people scrambled to get color monitors just to get away from the ho-hum grayness of working with a machine all day." - Rubbish, color monitors like any innovation are nice, but it has nothing to do with you wanting XP styled icons back in Visual Studio.
"To send us backwards is irritating at best and abusive at worst." - it's not backwards for me, it's forwards and it's not abusive, it's considerate of my changing tastes and requirements.
"Please, make Visual Studio look good again." - it looks good to me. If they changed it back i would have to put up a request of my own to bring back the 'metro' styled icons.
"I don't care about metro" - You don't have to care and you don't have to use it. You can stay with Windows 7.
I can't even take this request seriously, I think this suggestion should be rejected on the grounds that it is poorly formed and provides almost nothing in the way of supporting material. It is highly opinionated and is childish in its presentation.
The default(I hope there are some options) is terrible! It looks like something from 10years back.