Include Visual Basic 6.0 by default on the next version of Windows !
Please include Visual Basic 6.0 by default on the next version of Windows !
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Anonymous
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Crowd fund the $1 million+ cost to open source VB6 and Microsoft might consider it.
Open sourcing a large development environment + compiler + libraries + all of the 100s of difficult c based com APIs used by VB6 is a non-trivial operation.
Anyone care to volunteer for free at MS for 6 months to evaluate open sourcing VB6?
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Anonymous
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No. Ship a Windows 10 VM with VB6 development tools installed. Commit to maintaining that as a MS supported VB6 development environment until VB6 is retired.
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May 2107 Tiobe Index
==================In the May 2017 Tiobe.com survey...
Visual Basic has climbed to .... 2.347% and is now at position #12
C# has fallen to .......................3.457% and is now at position #5
VB.Net climbed to ...................3.391% and is now at position #6
Whatever Microsoft try, VB6 continues, while C# declines.
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Marco
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I love vb6
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Anonymous
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Microsoft could do this easily.
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Anonymous
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Yes, please do this.
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Anonymous
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Yes, please do this. VB6 programming free as part of Windows.
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Marc Gordon
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Why would Microsoft not do this ?
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paul
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There is a new 4.7 release of the VB6 installer...
http://nuke.vbcorner.net/Articles/VB60/VisualStudio6Installer/tabid/93/language/en-US/Default.aspx
This has been tested on Windows 10 version 1607
The Visual Studio install wizard installs the VB6 programming IDE and language on Windows 10 (and also Windows 7 and 8).
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Richard Collier
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Good suggestion. What reason could Microsoft have for not doing this ?
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@Codist & Anon, thank you for those replies. First of all, that PowerShell IDE certainly looks very comprehensive. Interesting how the latest trend seems to be going retro -- towards white on black. Noting that it says Code Colourisation, does that mean it doesn't do tight syntax checking like instantly identifying wrongly declared variables or basic syntax errors? Your point on the GUI is well noted!
@Anonymous commerce thanks for those points too. I'm quite familiar with both. Notepad++ certainly only does code colourisation and makes no attempt at declaration checks etc. VBSEdit is much better but I've hardly used it. Although it is better integrated, it still seems to lack instantaneous declaration/syntax checks(?). NSB seems to be gaining ground. I started watching a year ago. I've never played with it, but it does look like it's going places.
I totally agree with your point about it being usable -- my single highest priority, but also: no-limitations! Jobaco, now regarded as dead, was at first that breath of fresh air. Within minutes I had a form with a timer and buttons achieving real world requirements. That's why everybody at first leapt at it, but sadly it lost its way. Cheers
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paul
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@Windows ME, the best windows ever.
You inadvertently make an excellent point.
We have all heard the news that Microsoft are to put full desktop Windows 10 on ARM processors (for laptops, tablets and maybe phones). So ARM will be able to support VB6 applications and the VB6 programming IDE.So now would be the time to bring back an updated version of Windows 9x (not ME but Windows 98 would be fine) to run on small IoT devices (Raspberry Pi and similar). These would run VB6 with its low RAM and CPU requirements, where .Net and other languages would struggle.
Everything Microsoft have tried so far for IoT has failed because it has been too bloated for low-cost IoT boards.At last Microsoft could have a product for these devices, something they haven't really had since Windows CE and Windows Mobile 6.x
Good suggestion @Windows ME.
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Update VB6 programming
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@Lofaday
>> It would be very interesting to know what kind of IDE you use and if a better, tight syntax checking & debugger IDE one would help.
I use Notepad++, or VBSEdit for more complex requirements. VBSEdit has plenty of samples included. http://www.vbsedit.com/
I also use the VBA editor in Office, mainly for Excel VBA programming.
I like the VBSEdit IDE., simple and straightforward.
For other (mainly non-work related) projects I have just started using the NSBasic IDE www.nsbasic.com
This lets you code in either (a variant of) VBScript or JavaScript to create mobile and web apps. A really nice IDE.For me the biggest single feature in an IDE is that you should be able to use it immediately even though you may have not touched it for months. It should be simple and intuitive.
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John
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Microsoft Censors Campaign To Open Source VB6
http://www.i-programmer.info/news/98-languages/9757-visual-basic-reaches-25th-birthday.html
If Microsoft no longer intend to upgrade the VB6 programming language they should open source it.
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Ardal
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Putting (my VB6) Windows Apps in the Windows 10 Store - Project Centennial
http://www.hanselman.com/blog/PuttingMyVB6WindowsAppsInTheWindows10StoreProjectCentennial.aspx -
Update VB6 programming
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@Windows ME, the best windows ever.
But Windows ME isn't as good as Windows Vista. And Windows 8 is better than both of them. Time for you to stop fantasizing about Windows ME and move to Windows 8.0, it is the best version of Windows ever. You'll love it.
>>@Microsoft please bring back an improved version of windows ME, and continue the development from where you have stopped.
>>Of course VB6 should be included by default in next Windows ME successor.Windows 8 is that improved version of Windows ME ! Microsoft's best ever !
And VB6 programming is supported on all versions of Windows from Windows 95 to Windows 10 ! https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/ms788708.aspx>> There are so many VB6 developers that in no time you will have more applications than there currently available in Google Play Store.
There are more versions of Windows than there are applications in the Microsoft Store. -
The Codist
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@Anonymous,
At my company a lack of PS skills means you're relegated to low level help desk jobs. You will not get hired for an admin position. My wife's company is the same. Check the job listings and note how many expect PS knowledge. Look at all the courses and books on the subject. They wouldn't exist if there was no demand for them. Ask yourself why that demand exists.
BTW, our admin showed me something interesting about the newer Microsoft GUI management tools. Behind the scenes they're executing PS commands. Microsoft means it when they say learn PowerShell or learn to say "Do you want fries with that?".
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The Codist
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@Lofaday, there's already an IDE for PS. It's called PowerShell Studio:
https://www.sapien.com/software/powershell_studio
The admins here use it. It costs about $400 and they swear it's worth every penny. They pretty much own the market for PS IDEs. Maybe you should make something like Qt Creator but for PS. A tool to make PS GUI creation easy. If it was priced right you could sell a lot of copies.
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Windows ME, the best windows ever.
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Microsoft has failed the goal of one billion windows 10 devices, windows is collapsing.
Lots of users are migrating Android/Chrome OS or to MAC OS/iOS.
Windows 10 and all NT based windows are faults.
Now is the time to turn back golden era of classic windows (95, 98, ME).
@Microsoft please bring back an improved version of windows ME, and continue the development from where you have stopped.
Of course VB6 should be included by default in next Windows ME successor.
There are so many VB6 developers that in no time you will have more applications than there currently available in Google Play Store. -
Hi Anonymous, as you might have spotted further below, I'm developing an advanced IDE for VBScript etc.
It would be very interesting to know what kind of IDE you use and if a better, tight syntax checking & debugger IDE one would help.
Also, what scripting requirements do you have? Eg: networking? drive maintenance & housekeeping? software/update rollout? Any script sample websites you'd recommend?
Finally, would a simple form builder for a visual user interface be useful?
Ps: I have much the same queries for The Codist as I would like to target PS later in the road map.
