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Create a MSDN Subscription - Lite version - cheaper and limited tools

Currently all MSDN subscriptions are expensive for individual developers and they provide all s/w that are not really required by individuals.

An individual developer, for hobby, can use express editions of SQL Server, does not need Enterprise editions of OS / Office and similar software that increase the cost of MSDN license.

The suggestion is to create a MSDN Lite subscription that individual developers can buy and will provide tools such as Visual Studio, Expression Studio, Azure

The licensing cost should change little bit-
* For individual developers, the rates should be lower.
* For enterprises, the price can be higher (as now)

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    Anonymous shared this idea  ·   ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    Great news!

    On November 18, we introduced two significant changes in Visual Studio to address this request for “lite” MSDN subscriptions:
    1) We launched the new Visual Studio Dev Essentials program [https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/products/visual-studio-dev-essentials-vs.aspx], which is completely free. It provides tools, software, cloud services, and training and support for any developer, building apps on any platform.
    2) We launched new Visual Studio cloud subscriptions [https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/#VSSubscriptions], starting at $45/month for Visual Studio Professional, providing a significant discount compared to our traditional retail pricing (which is still available through the Microsoft Store online). Subscriber benefits, including access to Windows, Windows Server, SQL Server, and other software for dev/test, are available with the annual option.


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      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I don't think Visual Studio Dev Essentials program is the answer to "Create a MSDN Subscription - Lite version - cheaper and limited tools", it just did not answer at all

      • StephenPSA commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        No, that is not good news. Nothing has changed! VS Online has always been around that mark. The 'free' stuff always was there. As a retired developer by profession, I still want to dabble in the stuff. And yes, maybe create some (minimal) income from some Store program. I am used to working with Pro software and would like to continue but $540 a year + Office365 + Azure + Developer License, etc., etc. well, it just not a justifiable expense. I won't ever (have to) call MSDN for support, which is, no doubt, MS biggest cost. Give as a support free option with 'sample' level Azure and it should not cost more than $25/month, all included.

      • Jeremy commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        @Fan - Depending on what software you are looking for you may find that you can download a free lighter version. Most professional versions of Microsoft's software you can download free 90 day trials. Visual Studio community edition is free. If you're looking to learn about developing apps etc - you really don't need an MSDN subscription.

        If you are considering an MSDN subscription - 12 hundred bucks for an annual professional MSDN subscription is pretty good compared to what it used to cost. You can also write that off on your tax return as a business expense also. It's worth 100 bucks a month if you're serious about getting things done and commit to a learning strategy (ex: Pluralsight, Udemy)

        @Tommy - I agree with you - charge what you charge but payment options would be nice for people that can't front the cost in one payment.

      • Fan commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        lol I don't feel ready to pay for MSDN, cuz as a career xfer, it's still too professional, can't consume all the contents for a better use. so I guess any1 rdy to pay for the subscription,s/ he must be some1 already good enough to make money from her/his small/big apps, small/big websites, so $1000 is really nothing compared what s/he can get from MSDN. ---what I figured out from comments here.
        and i shall go back to MVA now, which is more suitable for me as a biginner xD

      • Tommy Parnell commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I'd like to see the same prices but as a reoccuring payment scheme that is smaller..ie break up the cost into monthly payments.

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Oh boo hoo. Let's see, I want to be a hot-rod car enthusiast in my spare time. So Snap-On Tools, can you please sell me your super expensive tools for much cheaper than you would a professional garage since I'm only a part time hobbyist.

        And any freelancer that can't pay for his tools from his contract work isn't really a freelancer. I don't see photographers complaining they can't afford cameras.

        Quit moaning.

      • Glenn commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I like that idea. As an IT Professional and individual developer, I like to test my applications in new versions of Windows, Office, and Visual Studio. While I use Visual Studio Express for my internal aaplication, I use Access a lot.

        Or MS could release an Express version of Office that has Access, Word, Excel and E-mail, those are the only office products I use, and an Express version of Windows.

        Something better then Windows starter edition that you couldn't even change the background. It needs to be fully functional.

        Or for IT Professionals/Developers being able to create an a la carte of the needed tools for us to purchase. I will miss the TechNet subscription, so happy I can test windows 10 and VS 2014 before it is gone. I hope the next version of office will show up soon.

      • Jack commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I agree! Please MS bring out affordable licenses for individuals.

      • Craig Deubler commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I completely agree, the Express stuff is nice but it just doesn't cut it if you want to really just 'work'.

        Action Pack is ~AUD500 for 3x professional licenses, with a whole ton of unnecessary server software. Why can't we just have an 'MSDN/VS Indy' for ~$50-70 per year, that's currently what I pay for RubyMine / WebStorm.

        The common answer of "Just do BizSpark" also isn't fantastic as it's jumping through hoops and an unnecessary impediment when you just want to build something without having to think about how you have to phrase a business plan!

      • Jesus commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I agree that there needs to be a cheaper version for individuals. I'm not a student and I would like a cheaper way to obtain a MSDN subscription. Developing would be just a hobby for me since I'm not good at it and just want to give it a try but for something I may only mess with a couple of times a year its not worth $700. Reason the MSDN Subscription interests me is because I have 4 computers and buying Windows software for all adds up. Having a subscription MSDN will help me get the licenses I need more affordable.

        Microsoft should give customers a better way to buy its software. Asking for outrageous prices that are meant for small businesses to individuals is not a good strategy.

        In my opinion they need to give us $300 MSDN subscription option for individuals not $700 a year.

      • Vijay commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Ok, I am probably late to the party, but I chanced on this blog lately.
        What's the verdict?
        How do we get MS to notice and respond to this request? Not sure if a MSConnect will work?

        Any suggestions?

      • David Thole commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I agree that lower prices would be nice. This may not be as necessary when VS2014 comes out, but resharper/jetbrains offers free subscriptions for open source developers. There are some of us who like developing open source software, and being unable to get VS professional for a reasonable price is kinda a problem. I'm glad the express versions exist, but stuff like Resharper don't work on it.

      • Marco commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I think it would really make sense to have a lite version...you pay - don't know - 100-200$ / year and you get VS Professional and some credits for Azure. MS could restrict the usage so that it is not useable for enterprises etc.

      • martin commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Why bother with MSDN? What about this?


        There is a 90 day free trial and currently a special intro price of $22.50 pcm ($270pa) no idea how long that offer lasts. Full price is $45 pcm ($540pa so about the same as a VS pro retail licence without MSDN used to cost).

        With the trial and the special offer it's a good offer. For the full price or $45 dollars a month it isn't (if memory serves) any cheaper than the full retail version of VS pro used to cost but at least you will always be running the latest version and with the increase in the release cadence from MS that might not be such a bad thing.

        Still no comparison on price to SharpDevelop or MonoDevelop (Xamarin Studio) which are free but if you really must have VS pro then I guess this is one option..

      • Gabriel Lozano-Moran commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I agree with the comments made here that we should have some kind of licensing model such as the Adobe Creative Cloud. For freelance consultants the current MSDN Subscriptions are unaffordable!

      • Dominik Ernst commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Visual Studio + Blend, Office, SQL-Server, Expression Studio and Azure should be included. Expression Studio should be further developed.

      • Roman commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        True. MSDN is unaffordable for individual developers. Office 365 subscription model with reasonable monthly price could be a solution.

      • Daver commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Perhaps instead of money, people could provide some (Crowd source) service to reduce the cost of MSDN. For example, when they provide a number of correct answers to a problem, or contribute ideas to User Voice, they will get an ever increasing amount of discounts and benefits to MSDN subscription. For those who already have MSDN subscription, they could get XBox Live credits, server support or tech support calls credits, etc.

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