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      Oliver ShawOliver Shaw commented  · 

      We also used Telerik on one large project.

      Mainly for data grids and day, month schedulers.

      UWP Telerik controls are open source. Perhaps this is an option for Avalonia.

      I haven't looked at them in detail, but I assume they are similar to SL just not as extensive.

      I would also guess that once Avalonia is more developed the likelihood of Telerik to convert its SL control would increase.

      Anyone have any thoughts on this?

      Oliver ShawOliver Shaw commented  · 

      Interesting convo on Avalonia started up about sponsoring development.

      We'd certainly consider this, especially if enough people got behind it?

      https://github.com/AvaloniaUI/Avalonia/issues/1151

      Oliver ShawOliver Shaw commented  · 

      MS - devs don't like JS/HTML for front end LOB (it's rubbish compared with .NET/XAML)

      Reality check for the 1000th time - Build a C# and XAML UI that reflects Silverlight or WPF!

      Now have a chance to go backwards so you can move forwards.

      GET .NET, C# and XAML (and HTML) in WASM ASAP! be in front of the competition.

      --- alternate thought, anyone thought about resurrecting Mono Moonlight now that Mono is pushing to WASM?
      http://www.mono-project.com/docs/web/moonlight/

      If Telerik for example took this on and could in some way sell it to MS developers. I wonder how many customers they would have for moonlight in WASM?

      Oliver ShawOliver Shaw supported this idea  · 
      Oliver ShawOliver Shaw commented  · 

      Thanks Roger, great article!

      I remember when apple where onboard with SL.

      I think I'd feel a whole lot better if MS released a roadmap including plans for GC, C#, XAML in WebAssembly.

      Currently there is only toolchain for C/C++ and JavaScript API on WebAssembly.

      I remember the good old days when developers had some clarity moving forwards. Makes it very difficult to innovate without it.

      I'll remain hopeful that I can once again consider myself an MS fanboy.

      http://www.esarcasm.com/1218/oldest-living-microsoft-fanboy-tells-all/

      Oliver ShawOliver Shaw commented  · 

      WebAssembly will be SL all over again. Apple and Google will not want it to happen as it circumvents App Stores. I'm guessing this is why the preview is in Edge because MS want to run games on their devices. Plus, it'll be a long time coming.

      I think the best bet is cross platform desktop apps such as Avalonia, which looks awesome! .NET community should get behind this. CSHTML5 guys are progressing very quickly - but it's not backed by MS and it probably has performance issues.

      I don't like the idea of writing JS and HTML as it's slow and difficult to maintain.

      MS (Apple and Google) will probably f*ck us again because they only do what's in their $$ interest. I think they might be interested in cross platform desktop apps as it doesn't break their model. Maybe Satya Nadella will see the strategic benefit to giving his shrinking community of developers a method of building awesome and fast ubiquitous apps. Meaning rescue his failing App Store by giving 'programmers' the ability to make the best desktop apps in the market.

      We must also remember office 365, Power BI and Dynamics are all asp.net as I know.

      Fingers crossed, but unless something is decided very soon we'll be migrating to plebweb tech.

      Maybe some awesome human that works at MS will make a post here and instantly win back all their die hard developers in one go.

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